VEC Race 1 - 6 hours of Monza

[Jimmi Allison]

Race Length: 6 hours
Race day: 2 September
Briefing released: 2nd post

Division 1-2 Race schedule:
11:00 - Race servers will be open (ensure only STARTING driver is on the server)
11:45 - All cars must be on the server - and stay there
12:00 - Qualifying
12:00-12:20 - GT3 Qualifying
12:25-12:45 - LMH/LMP2 Qualifying
12:50 - Qualifying session ends
12:50 - Warmup
12:55 - Start of formation lap
13:00 - Green flag - According to rules, please note the difference between divisions

Classes: LMH, LMP2 and GT3

Server Settings:
rFactor 2: Latest build
Simulated race start Time: 14:00
Time accelerated: x1
Flag rules: Black only
Weather: Live real weather
Orange Zone: In effect through first full lap
Server details: Click here

Race director: Jimmi Allison
Live stewards: None
Course Marshall:
Division 2: James Andrew

Please review the rules before joining the server for the race.
Race schedule times are in CET/CEST whatever is being used in Copenhagen at the time of the race.

 

[Jimmi Allison]

Briefing

Livestream:

 

[SRC Stewards]

DIVISION 1 Incident report​

All decisions made by the Stewards are final.

Qualifying
00:32:52 - P Aellen not paying attention to the traffic in Q session when leaving pitlane, at T1 he goes off to give way, but bumps and spins P Szwajkowski ruining his lap
Penalty - P Aellen - AC; DT

Incident list
Orange Zone start
00:04:14 - For the entire last sector A Asiain speeds up, slows down, speeds up slow down. First to a reaction but then keeps going on his own.
Infraction - A Asiain - UP

00:05:08 - J Neirola, S Mouzaidis, A Asiain, L Bell, J Raivio, R Muinck, E Akyol, G Rossi, J Coutant is slightly above pitlimiter speed when green flag is dropped.
Warning - J Neirola - Not following 4.3.3
Warning - S Mouzaidis - Not following 4.3.3
Warning - A Asiain - Not following 4.3.3
Warning - L Bell - Not following 4.3.3
Warning - J Raivio - Not following 4.3.3
Warning - R Muinck - Not following 4.3.3
Warning - E Akyol - Not following 4.3.3
Warning - G Rossi - Not following 4.3.3
Warning - J Coutant - Not following 4.3.3
This time you get a warning (doubled to infraction) however we suggest managers handle drivers and teach them how to turn on pitlimiter, it must have been hard to pit this race when they did not have that button assigned.

00:05:09 - B Knops makes very light contact with M Hoyer after trying to squeeze between 2 cars at the start. Backs out of it to avoid further issues.
Warning - B Knops - AC

00:05:26 - D Cannistraci brakes on a straight instead of just lifting over 150 meters before the actual braking zone. E Akyol had no time to react and collect him. A pile-up is caused.
Penalty - D Cannistraci - UP; SnH 60 seconds

00:05:30 - G Weiss and P Aellen gets off to a bad start, slowing down into T1 - however slowing down well enough causing GT3´s to take avoiding actions and causes some confusing and light contact between some GT3´s contact is made between A Veltens and M Sedlacek
Warning - A Veltens - AC
Warning - P Aellen - 4.3.3

00:06:47 - J Raivio drives too fast with a badly damaged car and without a rear wing. He loses it in Ascari while going at full racing speed, causing a secondary pile-up on Lap 1.
Penalty - J Raivio - AD; SnH 60 seconds

00:06:51 - The incident above causes contact between L Rance and C Ballou
NFA
Orange Zone ends

00:13:07 - M Murguly and M Hoyer is racing on s/f straight. Hoyer picked a defensive line and moves right while Murguly decides to run on the right side where there is no space
Infraction - M Hoyer - BL
Infraction - M Murguly - AD

00:27:45 - M Hoyer picks a line and M Murguly goes to the right side of Hoyer. Hoyer makes light contact and Murguly goes off track in the 2nd chicane
Infraction - M Hoyer - AC

00:31:23 - M Hoyer tries to scare M Murguly to not overtake and blocks
Penalty - M Hoyer - BL; DT

00:41:05 - D Silva is behind G Rossi and either goes for a block in order to prevent a pass from an LMP2 or a "i'm here" show on Rossi.
Warning - D Silva - UP

00:58:04 - After being boxed in between an LMP2 and a GT3, T Lartilleux chop D Cannistaci into Ascari, forcing the GT3 onto the grass and into the barriers.
Penalty - T Lartilleux - AC; SnH 60 seconds

01:05:25 - M Hemmingsen blocks M Hoyer
Penalty - M Hemmingsen - BL; DT

01:16:49 - T Blumschein, J Neirola and L Martino is 3 wide into T1 braking zone. Blumschein goes a bit wide and over the curb causing Martino to check up and light contact is made
Infraction - T Blumschein - UR

01:17:00 -A Asiain goes for a late divebomb onto M Sedlacek into T1. He stops the car in time, but a light contact is still made.
Infraction - A Asiain - AD

01:35:58 - After getting a poor exit, Martino is forced off the track on the corner exit by Rance.
Infraction - L Rance - AC

01:55:23 - T Imbourg outbrakes himself into T1 and pushes T Andonovski off. Imbourg than gains the place on exit. Imbourg gives the position back.
Infraction - T Imbourg - AC (downgraded due to GR)

01:58:24 - Towards T1 T Imbourg in a LMP2 blocks SimFreem LMH who is forced off track and has no way to avoid contact with Imbourg
Penalty - T Imbourg - BL; DT

01:59:12 - J Davies loses the car into Lesmo 2, making contact with P Pennimpede, forcing him into a spin.
Penalty - J Davies - AC; DT

02:03:46 - J Slovinac gets caught by T Andonovski, pulls away and get caught again and pulls away but after several corners of blue flag
Penalty - J Slovinac - BL; DT
Review 6.1.2

02:22:43 - N da Silva goes for a very late braking maneuver on M Hoyer, forcing both cars off track with contact.
Penalty - N da Silva - AC; DT

02:31:44 - S Vare actively fights a car several laps ahead, forcing both cars to lose time.
Penalty - S Vare - IBF; DT
Penalty - S Vare - US; DT

03:04:28 - M Korkiakoski ignores blue flags for a lap
Penalty - M Korkiakoski - IBF; DT

04:18:52 - After being passed off the racing line G Sonneveld misses the braking point and slightly hits A Martino in the back
Infraction - G Sonneveld - AC

04:52:43 - O Hargitai ignores blue flags for almost a full lap
Penalty - O Hargitai - IBF; DT

04:53:58 - D Skowron makes very light contact with M Murguly on the exit of the first chicane.
Warning - D Skowron - AC

04:54:15 - D Skowron makes light contact with M Murguly coming into the 2nd chicane, but leaves enough racing room.
Infraction - D Skowron - AC

05:10:36 - J Davies hits and spins E Netto on the exit of the final corner.
Penalty - J Davies - AC; DT

05:28:48 - P van Ark ignores blue flags for several laps
Penalty - P van Ark - IBF; DT

05:43:30 - S Vare ignores blue flags for several laps, culminating with a contact when S Celik goes for a pass.
Penalty - S Vare - IBF; DT

05:50:13 - Coming out of the pits fighting for a position with a car on track, D Jordan goes left and squeeze T Wach.
Infraction - D Jordan - AD

05:53:43 - T Goya has BF from Lesmo 2 until Parabolica from where he lets T Wach pass, which is exactly 4 corners
NFA

06:07:15 - After the race S Mouzaidis goes through the escape road at the first chicane and then all of a sudden speeds up and finally slams into the back of R Szucs
Penalty - S Mouzaidis - AC 5.12.2; SnH 60 seconds

Post race - #32 exceed driver limit time on T Goya with 76% and is therefor DQ´ed. Points recalculated and standings updated, entry still gets participation points.

Penalty Summary
Penalty - P Aellen - DT
Penalty - A Asiain - DT
Infraction - J Neirola - 4.3.3
Infraction - S Mouzaidis - 4.3.3
Infraction - A Asiain - 4.3.3
Infraction - L Bell - 4.3.3
Infraction - J Raivio - 4.3.3
Infraction - R Muinck - 4.3.3
Infraction - E Akyol - 4.3.3
Infraction - G Rossi - 4.3.3
Infraction - J Coutant - 4.3.3
Infraction - B Knops - AC
Penalty - D Cannistraci - SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - D Cannistraci - SnH 60 seconds
Infraction - A Veltens - AC
Infraction - P Aellen - 4.3.3
Penalty - J Raivio - AD; SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - J Raivio - AD; SnH 60 seconds
Infraction - M Murguly - AD
Penalty - M Hoyer - DT
Penalty - M Hoyer - DT
Warning - D Silva - UP
Penalty - T Lartilleux - SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - M Hemmingsen - DT
Infraction - T Blumschein - UR
Infraction - A Asiain - AD
Infraction - L Rance - AC
Penalty - T Imbourg - DT
Penalty - T Imbourg - DT
Penalty - J Davies - DT
Penalty - J Slovinac - DT
Penalty - N da Silva - DT
Penalty - S Vare - DT
Penalty - S Vare - DT
Penalty - M Korkiakoski - DT
Infraction - G Sonneveld - AC
Penalty - O Hargitai - DT
Warning - D Skowron - AC
Infraction - D Skowron - AC
Penalty - J Davies - DT
Penalty - P van Ark - DT
Penalty - S Vare - DT
Infraction - D Jordan - AD
Penalty - S Mouzaidis - SnH 60 seconds
DQ - T Goya - Driver time

Team Penalty Summary
Penalty - #33 - DT
Penalty - #28 - DT
Infraction - #34 - 4.3.3
Infraction - #36 - 4.3.3
Infraction - #28 - 4.3.3
Infraction - #48 - 4.3.3
Infraction - #89 - 4.3.3
Infraction - #73 - 4.3.3
Infraction - #75 - 4.3.3
Infraction - #69 - 4.3.3
Infraction - #72 - 4.3.3
Infraction - #220 - AC
Penalty - #74 - SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - #74 - SnH 60 seconds
Infraction - #93 - AC
Infraction - #33 - 4.3.3
Penalty - #89 - AD; SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - #89 - AD; SnH 60 seconds
Infraction - #8 - AD
Penalty - #4 - DT
Penalty - #4 - DT
Penalty - #1 - SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - #37 - DT
Infraction - #46 - UR
Infraction - #28 - AD
Infraction - #65 - AC
Infraction - #26 - AC
Penalty - #26 - DT
Penalty - #50 - DT
Penalty - #48 - DT
Penalty - #1 - DT
Penalty - #89 - DT
Penalty - #89 - DT
Penalty - #50 - DT
Infraction - #35 - AC
Penalty - #48 - DT
Infraction - #4 - AC
Penalty - #50 - DT
Penalty - #71 - DT
Penalty - #89 - DT
Infraction - #39 - AD
Penalty - #36 - SnH 60 seconds
DQ - #32 - Driver time

Stewards Comments and Feedback
D Cannistraci is put on probation due to 2 AC penalties within 2 races
J Raivio is put on probation due to 2 AC penalties within 2 races
S Vare is put on probation due to the amount of BL/US penalties

- Driver names. There have been too many drivers not matching up with their names this season. One final warning - teams will be loosing their race positions if we see this again. Take 5 minutes and review. Driver names MUST be the same as forum name and be the same as you have registered your driver line up with.

- Race starts needs to be improved, this many incidents within the orange zone is unacceptable. If this is becoming a thing for Road Atlanta we are going back to D2 starts in D1.

- Divebombs does not always just happens without reason. The LMH have weaker brakes than LMP2, the LMP2 has a hard time overtaking GT3's on exit because of Torque. Stewards have seen cars from all classes blocking, which then leads to frustration and this late moves because who wants someone to block so you run off the track. This leads us to:

- Blocking is not acceptable - its against the rules. You may defend your position by picking a deffensive line when coming out of a turn. But stay predictable and stay in that line.

- Blue flags are there for a reason. Yield if you are holding someone up - the easy fix is to enable penalties in game meaning you will get a DT if you dont yield immidiatly. Trust me, you do not want this. If you are able to pull away - feel free too try. But if you can't within 4 corners: You must give up the track position and yield.

- Once the race ends - same goes for formation lap - you are responsible for your actions. You are not allowed to start crashing into other cars, objects etc. Finish your inlap and go into the pit and then escape. Please just sit down and spend 15-20 minutes on reading the rules. We understand you can't memorize everything but there are some common sense to most of it.

Abbreviations
DQ = Disqualified
GR = Gentlemen Rule
AC = Avoidable Contact
IF = Infraction
RI = Racing Incident
W = Warning
SnH = Stop and Hold
DT = Drive Through
IYF = Ignoring yellow flag
IBF = Ignoring blue flag
FTLB = Failure to lock brakes
UTR=Unsafe track rejoin

 

[SRC Stewards]

DIVISION 2 Incident report​

All decisions made by the Stewards are final.

Qualifying
None

Incidents list
00:10:31 - Into Parabolica, T Badry outbrakes himself and pushes J P van Aerle into the run off, overtaking him that way.
Penalty - T Badry - AC; DT

00:20:11 - A Seffer barely leaves racing room for J P v Aerle. At the same time, J P v Aerle understeers into A Seffer and spins. Upon rejoining, C Miguel has to take avoiding action in order to avoid contact.
Warning - A Seffer - AD
Penalty - J Aerle - UR; DT

00:27:00 C Miguel outbrakes himself into Ascari, and proceeds to collect D Benefield, spinning both cars in the process.
Penalty - C Miguel - AC; DT

00:32:00 - R Wagler can't avoid B Coleff who is braking between T1 and T2 small contact is made between those 2. This causes Coleff to bump into the back of F Morelato
Racing incident

00:33:15 - Due to missing a wing F Morelato is off pace and is spinning more than once on the lap. Spin at T8-9 causes several cars to crash
Penalty - F Morelato - UP; SnH 60 seconds

00:33:18 - After the previous incident R Mendez drives away full throttle spins and rejoins track to hit C Streppone who spins, Mendez then continues to spin and then hits A Sturm. Mendez then decides to get out of the track but drives into the side of F Beringhoff
Penalty - R Mendez - AC; DT
Infraction - R Mendez - AC
Penalty - R Mendez - AC; DT

00:48:37 - J Fernandez goes for a dive into T1, and while X Castano leaves the space, contact is still made. From there X Castano proceeds to spin JC Fernandez and while spun continues to accelerate into the #208.
Penalty - J Fernandez - AC; DT
Penalty - X Castano - US; DT

01:29:53 - M Brettner and J Decultot is side by side into T1 and into T2,. M Brettner takes a shallow line into the turn and runs over sausage curb. This causes him to run into the side of Decultot. Both continues
NFA

02:04:16 - No incident is happening at the reported timestamp
NFA

02:32:11 - M Brettner rejoins into the path of B Gielczunski on the exit of Lesmo 2. Proceeds to collect him causing damage to both cars.
Penalty - M Brettner - UR; SnH 60 seconds

03:16:30 - While F Mistral forces a 3 wide scenario, it's on a straight and it's easily doable. For some reason, F Matallana decides to swerve in the path of the LMP2, forcing him off track.
Penalty - F Matallana - BL; DT
Penalty - F Matallana - AD; SnH 60 seconds

04:10:53 - L Crespo Chops in front of J Decultot while braking for the 2nd chicane.
Penalty - L Crespo - AC; DT

04:22:30 - S Leeuven is alongside F Ledoux at around 200 meters before the corner. Ledoux has more than enough time to see him that he's there. Into the braking zone, even though both cars are side by side, Ledoux turns into the corner, even though he has had a car there for quite some time.
Infraction - F Ledoux - AC

04:36:56 - H Wollert goes up the inside of A Arjona, brakes and appears to give way to Arjona who then turns in and spins
Penalty - H Wollert - AC; DT

05:39:45 - A Navarrete blocks an LMP2 that has clear overspeed and enough speed to overtake them before braking for the next corner.
Penalty - A Navarrete - DT; BL

Penalty Summary
Penalty - T Badry - AC; DT
Warning - A Seffer - AD
Penalty - J Aerle - UR; DT
Penalty - C Miguel - AC; DT
Penalty - F Morelato - UP; SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - R Mendez - AC; DT
Infraction - R Mendez - AC
Penalty - R Mendez - AC; DT
Penalty - JC Fernandez - AC; DT
Penalty - X Castano - US; DT
Penalty - M Brettner - UR; SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - F Matallana - BL; DT
Penalty - F Matallana - AD; SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - L Crespo - AC; DT
Infraction - F Ledoux - AC
Penalty - H Wollert - AC; DT
Penalty - A Navarrete - DT; BL

Team Penalty Summary
Penalty - #244 - DT
Penalty - #227 - DT
Penalty - #233 - AC; DT
Penalty - #240 - SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - #236 - DT
Infraction - #236 - AC
Penalty - #236 - DT
Penalty - #208 - DT
Penalty - #273 - DT
Penalty - #238 - SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - #255 - DT
Penalty - #255 - SnH 60 seconds
Penalty - #208 - DT
Infraction - #242 - AC
Penalty - #219 - DT
Penalty - #255 - DT

Stewards Comments and Feedback
Due to 2 AC penalties in the race R Mendez is put on probation

- Driver names. There have been too many drivers not matching up with their names this season. One final warning - teams will be loosing their race positions if we see this again. Take 5 minutes and review. Driver names MUST be the same as forum name and be the same as you have registered your driver line up with.

- Race starts Division 2 race start and orange zone went really well. Good job.

- Divebombs does not always just happens without reason. The LMH have weaker brakes than LMP2, the LMP2 has a hard time overtaking GT3's on exit because of Torque. Stewards have seen cars from all classes blocking, which then leads to frustration and this late moves because who wants someone to block so you run off the track. This leads us to:

- Blocking is not acceptable - its against the rules. You may defend your position by picking a deffensive line when coming out of a turn. But stay predictable and stay in that line.

- Blue flags are there for a reason. Yield if you are holding someone up - the easy fix is to enable penalties in game meaning you will get a DT if you dont yield immidiatly. Trust me, you do not want this. If you are able to pull away - feel free too try. But if you can't within 4 corners: You must give up the track position and yield.

- Once the race ends - same goes for formation lap - you are responsible for your actions. You are not allowed to start crashing into other cars, objects etc. Finish your inlap and go into the pit and then escape. Please just sit down and spend 15-20 minutes on reading the rules. We understand you can't memorize everything but there are some common sense to most of it.

Abbreviations
DQ = Disqualified
GR = Gentlemen Rule
AC = Avoidable Contact
IF = Infraction
RI = Racing Incident
W = Warning
SnH = Stop and Hold
DT = Drive Through
IYF = Ignoring yellow flag
IBF = Ignoring blue flag
FTLB = Failure to lock brakes
UTR=Unsafe track rejoin

 

[Jimmi Allison]

Thread locked until monday, update incoming

 

[Jimmi Allison]

Server is being updated tomorrow morning. Please note a small downtime between 7-9.

 

[Jimmi Allison]

Practice servers up. Added Rain and night server.

 

[Aaron Rios Jones]

Hello Jimmy, I have a question, in the preseason race the live timing didn't work, it was bugged, it only showed the division 1 times, for this next race would the page be fixed to have the times live?

 

[Arjan Veltens]

I have a question about the formation lap. Last saturday I tried to leave a small gap to the LMP2's as the GT3 polesitter because last year the field did bunch up heavily in T1 and T4, causing chaos.

My question is if it is allowed, accepted or even expected to leave a bit of a gap to the LMP2's? I couldn't find anything about it in the rules, so I guess i should have just bunched up, but that causes chaos imo, so I was wondering.

 

[Diogo Silva]

I have a question about the formation lap. Last saturday I tried to leave a small gap to the LMP2's as the GT3 polesitter because last year the field did bunch up heavily in T1 and T4, causing chaos.

My question is if it is allowed, accepted or even expected to leave a bit of a gap to the LMP2's? I couldn't find anything about it in the rules, so I guess i should have just bunched up, but that causes chaos imo, so I was wondering.

Since is controlled by the game, you can be as far as the game let you.

 

[Ben Crooks]

From what I understand you have to be close or the game will bug out

 

[Pedro Ramada]

Hello Jimmi.

Please can you help?

I already did the same procedure 4 times, make sure i was on all tracks and cars, unsub, get it get out of rf2 just to sync and update everything, re-sub again, get in rf2, get out again, get in again, try to go on the server and this happens ( see pic in attach file )

Please help

 

[Teun Snepvangers]

Hello Jimmi.

Please can you help?

I already did the same procedure 4 times, make sure i was on all tracks and cars, unsub, get it get out of rf2 just to sync and update everything, re-sub again, get in rf2, get out again, get in again, try to go on the server and this happens ( see pic in attach file )

Please help

Same issue for me. Something is going on with the Vanwall

 

[Francesc Matallana]

@Jimmi Allison same problem for me

 

[Peter Grau]

@Jimmi Allison same prob for me

 

[Jimmi Allison]

It seems like the early update failed on steam or my pc failed or i did something wrong. I have pushed the update now and checked it has gone through.

 

[Jimmi Allison]

I have a question about the formation lap. Last saturday I tried to leave a small gap to the LMP2's as the GT3 polesitter because last year the field did bunch up heavily in T1 and T4, causing chaos.

My question is if it is allowed, accepted or even expected to leave a bit of a gap to the LMP2's? I couldn't find anything about it in the rules, so I guess i should have just bunched up, but that causes chaos imo, so I was wondering.

Follow the procedure, meaning do not leave a gap unless race director specifically tells you to do so.
It causes more chaos when people do not follow instructions, leave a gap and 90% of the people following will get a penalty and the game then gets blamed for it.

 

[Francesc Matallana]

@Jimmi Allison Please check the division 2 server I can't access

 

[Jimmi Allison]

@Jimmi Allison Please check the division 2 server I can't access

No need too - division servers are not running until race week.

 

[Jimmi Allison]

Small fix in mod incoming and all servers are started up (including divisions) this morning.