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VEC Race 5 - 24 hours of Daytona

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Jimmi Allison

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Race Length: 24 hours
Qual day: 6 January
Race day: 13-14 January
Briefing released: 2nd post

Division 1-2 Qual schedule:
20:00 - Server reboot
20:05 - Open practice (ensure only STARTING driver is on the server) (also note that anyone registered for the car may qualify and does not have to start the car)
20:35 - All cars must be on the server - and stay there
21:00 - Green flag - Qualifying all classes - CARS MUST STAY ON THE SERVER UNTIL THE END OF THE SESSION
22:00 - Qualifying ending

Division 1-2 Race schedule:
11:30 - Race servers will be open (ensure only STARTING driver joins the server from this point)
12:35 - All cars must be on the server - and stay there
12:35 - Warmup - grid will be set
12:55 - Start of formation lap (3 minutes added to race time for manual formation lap)
13:00 - Green flag - See briefing notes

Classes: LMH, LMP2 and GT3

Server Settings:
rFactor 2: Previous-Release - 1.1133
Simulated Qual start time: 12:00
Simulated race start time: 13:00
Time accelerated: x1
Flag rules: Black only
Weather: Live real weather
Orange Zone: In effect through first full lap
Server details: Click here
Broadcast: Click here

Race director: Jimmi Allison
Live stewards: None
Course Marshall:
Division 2: James Andrew

Please review the rules before joining the server for the race.
Race schedule times are in CET/CEST whatever is being used in Copenhagen at the time of the race.
 
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Briefing:
Race starts:
  • Both divisions will follow 4.3.2.2 Drivers shall maintain a safe but reasonable distance to other drivers, following each other in a single file based on starting position, green flag when YOU cross the s/f line.
  • Both divisions should go 120 km/h in sector 1 and in sector 2. Coming out of the bus stop be slow down to pitlimiter speed.
  • Leave 2-3 seconds between classes - NO MORE as this will lead to to much of a gap, leading the traffic to hit earlier than needed.
  • Please make a note of who you are starting behind and do not overtake on formation lap.
Exception to rules:
- 1.4.2 line up changes are moved to 48 hours before race starts, meaning thursday at 13:00
- 10.1.2 Number of cuts allowed per hour is changed to 3 for Daytona

Broadcast will be split up into 3 streams
Links can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/@VirtualEnduranceChampionship
 
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DIVISION 1 Incident report

All decisions made by the Stewards are final.

Qualifying
00:49:25 - J Calleja finishes his fast lap, on his inlap he waits for J Nisula to give slipstream on the banking. You can see it is done on purpose by the inputs. Nisula beats his fastest time and gets pole.
Penalty - J Calleja - 3.5 - car moved to the back of the grid
Penalty - J Nisula - 3.5 - car moved to the back of the grid

00:51:25 - N Wisniewski is preparing his hotlap in traffic yet is ahead of F Neuburger
NFA

00:54:35 - N Wisniewski comes out of the pits and approching T4 F Neuberger has to overtake Wisniewski that goes off track to give way
NFA

Incident list
No race reviews due to replay not loading

Penalty Summary


Team Penalty Summary


Stewards Comments and Feedback
P Schindler is off probation
T Blumschein is off probation
N deBaillon is off probation

Abbreviations
DQ = Disqualified
GR = Gentlemen Rule
AC = Avoidable Contact
IF = Infraction
RI = Racing Incident
W = Warning
SnH = Stop and Hold
DT = Drive Through
IYF = Ignoring yellow flag
IBF = Ignoring blue flag
FTLB = Failure to lock brakes
UTR=Unsafe track rejoin
 
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DIVISION 2 Incident report

All decisions made by the Stewards are final.

Qualifying

Incident list
No race reviews due to replay not loading

Penalty Summary


Team Penalty Summary


Stewards Comments and Feedback
C Medeiros is off probation

Abbreviations
DQ = Disqualified
GR = Gentlemen Rule
AC = Avoidable Contact
IF = Infraction
RI = Racing Incident
W = Warning
SnH = Stop and Hold
DT = Drive Through
IYF = Ignoring yellow flag
IBF = Ignoring blue flag
FTLB = Failure to lock brakes
UTR=Unsafe track rejoin
 
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Baptiste Heuze said:
Hi jimmi

Did the server will go the the current release or still stay on the 1133? As the last release solve some AMD trouble it can be helpful for some
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It also added some issues, I’ll be trying to see if I can do some tests.
Some issues with ffb, some issues with results not being written or not being done in time and finally the name changes in the new CS.
I’d rather AMD users run on old driver than everyone having issues.
again I will have a look when I can.
 
Okay seriously, can we please do something about some of these lmp teams? I joined the Daytona practice server earlier and literally the first thing I saw is some lmp almost murdering gt3 by braking too late. Its already seen multiple times this season that few of the teams clearly aint up to task driving a prototype and should be driving GT's instead which is slower and has some aids to assist you.

I get that mistakes happen, but this season so far has been a nightmare driving standards wise and it's not the same VEC I remember when I first joined here back in 2016 or so. The lack of respect/driving standards/brain usage causing these incidents is really starting to take away the fun and point racing here for me, which is why I'd really like to see something to be done. Currently I'm not really looking forward to Daytona as I know it will be just as bad as the races before.

Just to show how its been so far for us this season:

R1: Got taken out by a fellow GT3 about 500m after the start-> lost rear wing and hundreds of seconds of damage = race ruined.
R2: Avoided lmp's crashing at the start and after serving 200s of penalties got up to podium and close to p2, but ~15min before the end a lapped car crashed in front of me and I couldnt avoid him -> over 200s of damage and finished p4 instead of possibly p2.
R3: Huge crash at the start started by LMH -> bad call from me and lost the engine after hitting crashed lmp hard barely even starting the first lap -> DNF.
R4: LMP runs out of talent on lap 1 driving into raidillon with cold tires, crashes and then for some unbelievable reason rejoins on track just as the first GT's are approaching -> couldnt avoid and lost the engine -> DNF again.

After almost 1500 min of racing so far we've stayed on the lead lap for not more than 20 minutes, thats crazy.:rolleyes: Sure with better skills avoiding these clearly very talented prototype drivers it could be more, but I honestly dont think we should need to avoid them crashing every start every race.
 
Joonas Raivio said:
Okay seriously, can we please do something about some of these lmp teams? I joined the Daytona practice server earlier and literally the first thing I saw is some lmp almost murdering gt3 by braking too late. Its already seen multiple times this season that few of the teams clearly aint up to task driving a prototype and should be driving GT's instead which is slower and has some aids to assist you.

I get that mistakes happen, but this season so far has been a nightmare driving standards wise and it's not the same VEC I remember when I first joined here back in 2016 or so. The lack of respect/driving standards/brain usage causing these incidents is really starting to take away the fun and point racing here for me, which is why I'd really like to see something to be done. Currently I'm not really looking forward to Daytona as I know it will be just as bad as the races before.

Just to show how its been so far for us this season:

R1: Got taken out by a fellow GT3 about 500m after the start-> lost rear wing and hundreds of seconds of damage = race ruined.
R2: Avoided lmp's crashing at the start and after serving 200s of penalties got up to podium and close to p2, but ~15min before the end a lapped car crashed in front of me and I couldnt avoid him -> over 200s of damage and finished p4 instead of possibly p2.
R3: Huge crash at the start started by LMH -> bad call from me and lost the engine after hitting crashed lmp hard barely even starting the first lap -> DNF.
R4: LMP runs out of talent on lap 1 driving into raidillon with cold tires, crashes and then for some unbelievable reason rejoins on track just as the first GT's are approaching -> couldnt avoid and lost the engine -> DNF again.

After almost 1500 min of racing so far we've stayed on the lead lap for not more than 20 minutes, thats crazy.:rolleyes: Sure with better skills avoiding these clearly very talented prototype drivers it could be more, but I honestly dont think we should need to avoid them crashing every start every race.
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mayby 15-20 sec gap between the classes at the start?
 
Joonas Raivio said:
R3: Huge crash at the start started by LMH -> bad call from me and lost the engine after hitting crashed lmp hard barely even starting the first lap -> DNF.
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"Crashed lmp": lmp had not been crashed yet until you crashed it because of not slowing down like we did when we saw the smoke, but shit happens and we moved on, but that was what happened.
 
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Probably best to take a step back instead of this BS that is going around.
Use the actual IRR's and report people. If you find someone not acting nice on the practice server, use contact staff - everything is recording and there is GB upon GB of replays and xml files. However as said before, people do make mistakes and if you can't deal with that - practice offline.
If its the same team over and over again, we will have records in IRR. However you need to be fair here, reporting racing incidents for stewards does not help the process at all, small bumps "he almost took me out" reports is not something we can use for anything.

Sorry GT3´s but sometimes you also do this on your own - if you chose to go full throttle off track into the mayhem of LMP/H or even on track - its hardly only their fault. I have seen several GT3 drivers that is not behaving according to the rules - you are not the saints where LMP/H cars are the devil here. I am not saying driving from all LMH/P cars are perfect - far from it, but same goes for GT3.

Give and take - the magic words.
 
Joonas Raivio said:
Okay seriously, can we please do something about some of these lmp teams? I joined the Daytona practice server earlier and literally the first thing I saw is some lmp almost murdering gt3 by braking too late. Its already seen multiple times this season that few of the teams clearly aint up to task driving a prototype and should be driving GT's instead which is slower and has some aids to assist you.
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The LMP in question on the training server is me. Simple driver error and I didn't touch the GT.
So you start complaining when nothing happened. You made the same remark to me on the server's written chat and I didn't reply, to avoid a potential conflict.

If you think that LMPs are problematic, it's possible that that's the case, but in my case on the training server it was a simple mistake and the training server is there to allow players to train and therefore make mistakes that won't be repeated during the races.

This isn't my first VEC season and so far, apart from an error in interpreting the rules with another lmp2 for which I was cautioned at Monza, I haven't been penalised because I try to do the best I can at the races and I train my team-mates to do the same because it's a personal satisfaction to do the best I can without disrespecting the competitors.

During the last three races, we've been the victims of various accidents that have ruined our races too. We're frustrated at having to train and then end up with this result through bad luck. But we use the IRR system and if there's no penalty... we move on.

We're working on how to minimise the impact of competitors' mistakes on our races, but these are external factors that we don't completely control, but there's nevertheless some personal work to be done that can help.

We're gritting our teeth and waiting for our luck to change so we can hope for the best next time. We're also disappointed with the results, which aren't up to the standard we're capable of.
But mistakes can happen to anyone. Both LMPs and GTs make mistakes. So please stop picking on the LMPs alone.

The IRR system isn't perfect, but it does allow us to sanction and warn competitors so that they can question themselves and improve. Some people take longer to understand, but it's not for you or me to judge them.

I'll just finish with this small point and I won't come back to the subject to avoid a pointless debate.

Respect isn't innate; it's acquired by respecting your competitors. If you don't respect your competitors then you won't be respected in return.

Winning at all costs is not rewarding, but even a defeat in the knowledge that we have nothing to reproach ourselves for is just as satisfying as a victory.

Strength, honour and respect to all. ;)
 
Hi, I see this error when I entry to the server. Dont load any car. rF2 is freeze.



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I accept.


Now works, but I dont see the skin of Visceral Esports at Timing. On track I see the car full Chrome like this.


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Yeah, there is a mistake in the Viceral car, this is due to some other small things done in the background and how the veh files are made. Fixed it now and an update is being built and installed in the next few minutes
 
Quick question on the qualify and race. Normally the one who qualified would stay on the server for the race and start for the team. As now the qualify is a week ahead does this rule still apply, or is it allowed to have someone else start the race?

thx
 
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